898 Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me
- teddyleevin
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Re: Twin Peaks
Definitely not legal (like most fan-edits, it's essentially a bootleg that goes out of its way to defy the creators, regardless of whether or not its an improvement), so much so that any Twin Peaks podcast or website I've found may mention it but will go out of its way to not even directly recommend it. Given the current publicity for TP, I'd be shocked if they didn't get a cease and desist.
- willoneill
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
I guess the justification is that right now, FWWM is only available in the complete Twin Peaks set?
Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
FWIW, Paramount did re-release the Twin Peaks set a little while back, leaving out the tenth disc of Fire Walk with Me-related extras. It really does seem odd and pointless for Criterion to bother with, but perhaps (I'm still not sold) it is simply a way of giving the film an individual release that could sell on its own -- and timed accordingly with the revival.
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
Can't see how FWWM would happen after barely 3 years ago getting an official, extremely comprehensive, basically perfect director-approved release/transfer, stacked with loads of extras, etc.
But I guess that this would allow people to purchase the film separate from the series? I love the way that the new set forces you to contemplate them as a full package, but that would be nice I suppose. What could Criterion do with the transfer that wasn't already perfected on the latest release, though? It's just odd.
But I guess that this would allow people to purchase the film separate from the series? I love the way that the new set forces you to contemplate them as a full package, but that would be nice I suppose. What could Criterion do with the transfer that wasn't already perfected on the latest release, though? It's just odd.
- dwk
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
Other than a new 4K remaster, I'm not sure what they can add to Fire Walk with Me, but I can't think of anything else that it could be. Maybe they are doing a Blu-ray box set of a number of David Lynch's films.
- PfR73
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
But why would anyone even want to buy the film separately from the series? Is there really a subset of people who want Fire Walk With Me, but don't want the series AND decided to hold off buying the set in hopes it would be released separately? I could maybe see it the other way around, but not like this.
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
Let's hope we're all wrong here, because think of all the titles Criterion is sitting or or not licensing and then putting out a film already well-represented in Blu-ray
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
I've actually seen a decent amount of posts from people who don't have blu ray players and want the new FWWM release, complete with Missing Pieces, or already have the Gold Box maybe but are really only interested in getting FWWM on blu (?), etc. It's not too unusual.PfR73 wrote:But why would anyone even want to buy the film separately from the series? Is there really a subset of people who want Fire Walk With Me, but don't want the series AND decided to hold off buying the set in hopes it would be released separately? I could maybe see it the other way around, but not like this.
Also even though the series and film are obviously related, the cost of the EM set is a bit prohibitive and a lot of people will just buy Lynch films as Lynch films while either ignoring the series or being content to stream it on Netflix/Amazon/Hulu/Showtime, and so on. It's an odd decision to put this out but especially with the new season coming up it makes enough sense.
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- tenia
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
Fire Walk with Me will supposedly get an individual French BD release by Potemkine, who is at least re-releasing the movie in French theaters. There might thus be an opening for independant labels.
EDIT : here is the cover art for the French BD :
EDIT : here is the cover art for the French BD :
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- swo17
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
As someone who considers the entire TV series apocrypha, this move makes perfect sense to me.tenia wrote:Fire Walk with Me will supposedly get an individual French BD release by Potemkine, who is at least re-releasing the movie in French theaters. There might thus be an opening for independant labels.
- soundchaser
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
The Entire Mystery Set can be had for nearly the SRP of a standard Criterion, and cheaper than a 2-discer, with a minimum amount of searching. If it is Fire Walk With Me - one of my favorite films of all time, mind you - it's a truly baffling move and a tremendously frustrating waste of a slot, given that The Straight Story and Lost Highway remain unreleased on Blu-Ray in the US.
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
To lend further evidence, according to Jon Dieringer (of Screen Slate) the rights for Fire Walk With Me revert to Janus next month. https://twitter.com/jondotd/status/858037663605166081" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- FrauBlucher
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
In that case, this release is probably not around the corner.
- HitchcockLang
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
I am of the tiny camp that has only seen FWWM and never seen the series (I bought the movie on DVD for $3 from Dollar General when I was in high school). I have been eyeing the blu-ray box though. Still, I agree this is a weird choice for Criterion.
- Ribs
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
Is it? Surely if with CBS they'd have been permitted to work on it if the rights haven't yet reverted as they have a working relationship with them?FrauBlucher wrote:In that case, this release is probably not around the corner.
Is there any chance they're releasing *the show*? I still think back to the SCMS gossip where they said they had TV releases upcoming, and since then we've only had Dekalog.
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- Ribs
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
I might be misremembering the source, it's from a few years back now.
- AquaNarc
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
Unlikely but...maybe Criterion will be doing the Season 3 blu-ray and this will come out the same month?
- Omensetter
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
David Lynch: The Art LifeJgh8xxx wrote: What the hell could Criterion possibly add to this release?
A smart business move to capitalize on the new season, nineties nostalgia, its massive cult following, etc.
To echo others, Lost Highway or The Straight Story would have been preferable.
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
Why would Amazon Studios agree to release the doc as an extra? I would think they would demand a standalone release. Remember, it's their film and they are just using Janus as their "distribution partner".
- captveg
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
They'll undoubtedly time it in the Fall when Showtime releases the new series on BD/DVD.FrauBlucher wrote:In that case, this release is probably not around the corner.
- swo17
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
Is it possible that they aren't actually going to release FWWM but were just really proud to have come up with the pun Fire Wok with Meat?
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
Criterion could fix the audio synchronization problem found on the Blu-ray set so I could watch the film in 1080/24p instead of 1080/60p (the setting which corrects the synchronization issue on my player). Still, as big of a Lynch fan as I am, I doubt I'd buy this title again.
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
I bought the set (the cheaper one) primarily for FWWM. I like the show but am not sure how much I may watch it so... meh.
- eerik
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Re: Criterion Newsletter: Clues and More, Volume Four
The Entire Mystery version already is from a 4K master.dwk wrote:Other than a new 4K remaster, I'm not sure what they can add to Fire Walk with Me, but I can't think of anything else that it could be. Maybe they are doing a Blu-ray box set of a number of David Lynch's films.