News on Criterion and Janus Films.
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movielocke
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by movielocke » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:28 pm
dwk wrote:I think 1000 is definitely getting announced next month, as Jonathan Keogh (before he nuked his twitter) mentioned that the last video he cut for Criterion is coming in October and it features all 1000 releases.
Now that’s a big montage project, at even 1.5 seconds per spine that’s 25 minutes long. So probably something more visually intense that does multiple spines at once intercut with featured 3-5 second highlights.
Unless it’s a graphical thing featuring covers rather than clip based.
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agnamaracs
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by agnamaracs » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:15 pm
I just had an epiphany. Criterion's records say that the Citizen Kane LD was released on December 3, 1984. That day falls on a Tuesday this year...
1000 will be Citizen Kane, but it won't come out until December 3, to mark the 35th anniversary of Criterion. (Maybe they'll make one with a 12" replica sleeve.)
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swo17
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by swo17 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:36 pm
I just got goosebumps realizing that in a little under a month we can lock this thread forever
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mteller
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by mteller » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:40 pm
And then we can speculate about spine #1100!! It's bound to be something special!
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kcota17
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by kcota17 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:08 pm
So it’s most likely either going to be:
- The Grand Budapest Hotel
- Paris is Burning
- Citizen Kane
- Godzilla Boxset
- Title that’s popular but has no significance (I.e. The Graduate, Anatomy of a Murder)
I doubt it’ll be anything that’s other than this.
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movielocke
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by movielocke » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:32 pm
kcota17 wrote:So it’s most likely either going to be:
- The Grand Budapest Hotel
- Paris is Burning
- Citizen Kane
- Godzilla Boxset
- Title that’s popular but has no significance (I.e. The Graduate, Anatomy of a Murder)
I doubt it’ll be anything that’s other than this.
Napoleon, singing in the rain, Roma and King Kong are also all decent candidates.
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Buttery Jeb
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by Buttery Jeb » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:48 pm
movielocke wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:32 pm
kcota17 wrote:So it’s most likely either going to be:
- The Grand Budapest Hotel
- Paris is Burning
- Citizen Kane
- Godzilla Boxset
- Title that’s popular but has no significance (I.e. The Graduate, Anatomy of a Murder)
I doubt it’ll be anything that’s other than this.
Napoleon, singing in the rain, Roma and King Kong are also all decent candidates.
I'd also throw in The Other Side of the Wind.
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FlickeringWindow
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by FlickeringWindow » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:13 pm
How about a 40th anniversary Handmade Films box set? That would explain why they've sat on all those Arrow 2K masters for The Long Good Friday, Withnail & I, How to Get Ahead in Advertising, and Mona Lisa.
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FrauBlucher
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by FrauBlucher » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:15 pm
swo17 wrote:I just got goosebumps realizing that in a little under a month we can lock this thread forever
Oh you’re going to miss it when it’s gone
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Yaanu
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by Yaanu » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:03 pm
FrauBlucher wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:15 pm
swo17 wrote:I just got goosebumps realizing that in a little under a month we can lock this thread forever
Oh you’re going to miss it when it’s gone
Spine #1000:
The Pitch Perfect Trilogy.
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John Shade
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by John Shade » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:56 am
Vegas has weighed in with some current odds:
Citizen Kane 2:1
Grand Budapest Hotel 3:1
Welles Box 7:1
Godzilla Box 7:1
Kurosawa Box 10:1
Other Side of the Wind 10:1
Napoleon 12:1
Singing in the Rain 12:1
King Kong 15:1
Roma 25:1
Fellini Box 25:1
Wong Kar- wai Box 25:1
Prince of Tides 100:1
The Miracle of Morgan's Creek 250:1
Problem Child Box 1,000:1
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Shrew
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by Shrew » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:23 pm
I do wonder if the recent Barnes and Noble purchase inspired Criterion to push up some releases into September, bringing 1000 into October (and their own sale) rather than November.
Anyway, it's not going to be Napoleon. There's no way that gets released in North America without some prior fanfare from Coppola and/or the French Cinematheque.
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domino harvey
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by domino harvey » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:03 pm
Realistically, I can't see this being any single title but Citizen Kane or the Grand Budapest Hotel. But it could very well be a big celebratory label-spanning box set that we haven't even guessed at, something along the lines of a Blu-ray version of the huge Janus box with lots of titles from across the years included or some other larger theme as opposed to a single director. Keep in mind that no one saw the giant Bergman box coming either, so it may be a complete surprise. But it's probably just Citizen Kane
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bearcuborg
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by bearcuborg » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:59 pm
Well, that about covers it all.
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dwk
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by dwk » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:22 am
Someone at the Blu-ray.com forum mentioned the Bergman set getting its own announcement day, which reminded me that spine #900) 100 Years of Oylmpic Films also got its own announcement day. Looking at the dates, July 12, 2018 and August 10, 2017, both were the second Thursdays. (I believe that both were also announced pretty early in the day.) If Criterion keeps to that pattern and is doing a big box for spine #1000, they likely will announce it on the 11th of July. So, 20 days and swo17 can lock this thread.
And, my final guess for 1000 - The Complete Truffaut.
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swo17
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by swo17 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:31 am
Thanks for that. Also, as a reminder, the Bergman set didn't receive a spine number
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denti alligator
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by denti alligator » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:00 am
Sorry not to be up on this, but would Criterion have (or be able to get) the rights to Citizen Kane?
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CSM126
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by CSM126 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:20 am
Kane is a Warner title so hypothetically yes, they could license it (unless Warner was just completely deadset against licensing it out). Some have speculated/claimed that Criterion did, indeed, license Kane.
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swo17
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by swo17 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:33 am
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dwk
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by dwk » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:43 pm
movielocke wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:28 pm
Now that’s a big montage project, at even 1.5 seconds per spine that’s 25 minutes long. So probably something more visually intense that does multiple spines at once intercut with featured 3-5 second highlights.
Unless it’s a graphical thing featuring covers rather than clip based.
Not to go too far off topic, but Jonathan Keogh reactivated his twitter and I was able to look up that he started work on the video last September.
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Malickite
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by Malickite » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:02 am
Didn't Vertigo get a new 4K restoration last year? That film is certainly deserving of the prestigious 1000
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dda1996a
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by dda1996a » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:34 am
dwk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:43 pm
movielocke wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:28 pm
Now that’s a big montage project, at even 1.5 seconds per spine that’s 25 minutes long. So probably something more visually intense that does multiple spines at once intercut with featured 3-5 second highlights.
Unless it’s a graphical thing featuring covers rather than clip based.
Not to go too far off topic, but Jonathan Keogh reactivated his twitter and I was able to look up that he started work on the video last September.
Can they use spines they don't have rights to anymore?
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bearcuborg
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by bearcuborg » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:00 am
They can do whatever they want, but that hasn’t happened.
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dwk
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by dwk » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:01 am
It is not like they are going to he selling this video and each clip is likely going to be so short that I can't see them having any issues using clips from OOP titles.
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jindianajonz
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by jindianajonz » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:29 pm
movielocke wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:28 pm
dwk wrote:I think 1000 is definitely getting announced next month, as Jonathan Keogh (before he nuked his twitter) mentioned that the last video he cut for Criterion is coming in October and it features all 1000 releases.
Now that’s a big montage project, at even 1.5 seconds per spine that’s 25 minutes long. So probably something more visually intense that does multiple spines at once intercut with featured 3-5 second highlights.
Unless it’s a graphical thing featuring covers rather than clip based.
A question for the truly obsessed- will there be 1000 films in such a video? A lot of the spine numbers belong to set boxes, but there are some titles like Floating Weeds that feature two films under a single spine number. Then you have anthology sets like Beastie Boys and Brakhage which would easily put the number of titles over, but I'm guessing that any compilation video would treat short film anthologies as a single release.