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Moe Dickstein
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Re: Criterion Prices

#201 Post by Moe Dickstein » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:49 pm

It'll be $37 plus tax with coupon at the next Criterion sale in November

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#202 Post by mfunk9786 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:54 pm

That's the most annoying argument whenever we discuss MSRPs. We're just talking about the base price structure, not what we'll actually be paying.

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#203 Post by domino harvey » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:57 pm

They had to make up the $20 MSRP from those Oct Universal titles somewhere!

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#204 Post by mfunk9786 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:59 pm

Those'll be $11 plus tax with coupon at the next Criterion sale in November

But all joking aside - they're going to be a pretty great deal, and will make Something Wild seem even more overpriced.

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#205 Post by Moe Dickstein » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:48 pm

Then I don't get what your issue is? You don't think the pricetag is justified? I find the MSRP to be irrelevant since I am never ever paying that price for any Criterion ever, either it's in print and there is some sort of discount, or it's out of print and often going for OVER MSRP...

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#206 Post by Matt » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:53 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:Everyone goofs on me when I talk about prices even though it's okay for everyone else to do it...
Plus ça change...

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#207 Post by domino harvey » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:54 pm

Moe Dickstein wrote:Then I don't get what your issue is? You don't think the pricetag is justified? I find the MSRP to be irrelevant since I am never ever paying that price for any Criterion ever, either it's in print and there is some sort of discount, or it's out of print and often going for OVER MSRP...
The price we will all pay in some future sale is greater than that of comparable releases by the same company of the same level of films/extras

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#208 Post by FakeBonanza » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:58 pm

Moe Dickstein wrote:Then I don't get what your issue is? You don't think the pricetag is justified? I find the MSRP to be irrelevant since I am never ever paying that price for any Criterion ever, either it's in print and there is some sort of discount, or it's out of print and often going for OVER MSRP...
The MSRP will always have a relative effect on any discounted price. Of course the price will always be lower than the MSRP, and in the case of sales, much lower; however, that 50% off is still discounted from the MSRP. Thus, a higher MSRP will always lead to higher prices for a particular release, whether it's on sale or not.

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#209 Post by Moe Dickstein » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:10 pm

Right, and if anyone feels that $100 MSRP and $37 in real life is too high for that set then I invite them to time travel to when I paid $125 for the CAV Evita Criterion...

I guess I don't have a hard time seeing the value in that release - still there at $100 instead of $80. And lest anyone think I'm just an apologist I called them out for the barebones titles for October being at $40 rather than $30. Is there not a precedence for 3-4 film sets landing either at $80 or $100 depending on presumably the costs to assemble the set, transfers and features?

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#210 Post by chatterjees » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:44 pm

I am sure that on the announcement day, I saw the SRP for John Cassavetes: Five Films set was 99.95! Today, after seeing all these posts, I checked this morning and found the current SRP to be $124.95!!! Am I being wrong in thinking that the SRP was in the lower range on last Monday? :(

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#211 Post by movielocke » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:48 pm

chatterjees wrote:I am sure that on the announcement day, I saw the SRP for John Cassavetes: Five Films set was 99.95! Today, after seeing all these posts, I checked this morning and found the current SRP to be $124.95!!! Am I being wrong in thinking that the SRP was in the lower range on last Monday? :(
no, you're wrong, announcement day had the set at 124.95, same as the DVD.

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#212 Post by chatterjees » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:51 pm

OK, thanks.

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#213 Post by rrenault » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:54 pm

Moe Dickstein wrote:Right, and if anyone feels that $100 MSRP and $37 in real life is too high for that set then I invite them to time travel to when I paid $125 for the CAV Evita Criterion...

I guess I don't have a hard time seeing the value in that release - still there at $100 instead of $80. And lest anyone think I'm just an apologist I called them out for the barebones titles for October being at $40 rather than $30. Is there not a precedence for 3-4 film sets landing either at $80 or $100 depending on presumably the costs to assemble the set, transfers and features?
Might we also consider that licensing costs have an effect on a product's MSRP. That could be why some single-disc DVD releases like Hiroshima Mon Amour, Wild Strawberries, and Le Doulos have SRPs of $39.99 instead of $29.99. It doesn't cost the same amount to license every film.

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#214 Post by Jack Phillips » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:27 pm

Moe Dickstein wrote:Right, and if anyone feels that $100 MSRP and $37 in real life is too high for that set then I invite them to time travel to when I paid $125 for the CAV Evita Criterion...
Which, in todays dollars, had the buying power of $190 (or thereabouts).

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#215 Post by Gregory » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:44 pm

I can see why one might want to head back in time to the day of that purchase.

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#216 Post by Moe Dickstein » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:58 pm

Yeah I wouldn't mind the not having to pay rent aspect of 1997, but then again I'd also be back living at home...

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#217 Post by johnnysnatchclub7 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:14 am

Barnes & Noble sent out an email this morning that they will be offering The Devil's Backbone a week earlier at 50% off.

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#218 Post by johnnysnatchclub7 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:51 pm

Barnes & Noble sale has been extended through August 5th. Still short of Seconds but I'll take it.

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#219 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:01 pm

Does that include the stores, or is it just for the website?

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#220 Post by The Narrator Returns » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:03 pm

I went there today, and the stores are included.

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#221 Post by felipe » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:09 am

I've noticed Sundays and Cybèle's DVD MSRP is 24.95, which is 5 dollars cheaper than most of Criterion's DVDs, so why is the blu-ray regularly priced at 39.95 and not 5 dollars chaper as well? They must have their reasons for the different DVD pricing, so why don't the same reasons apply for the BD?

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#222 Post by Paupau » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:06 pm

What's the reasoning for a 3 disc set to cost $125? What's so different from say brakhage? Is there a precedent?

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#223 Post by domino harvey » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:09 pm

Paupau wrote:What's the reasoning for a 3 disc set to cost $125? What's so different from say brakhage? Is there a precedent?
Wow, I didn't even look at the price. What the devil, this is going to cost the same as the Tati set?

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#224 Post by swo17 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:10 pm

Total runtime for all of the films is about as long as for the Tati set.

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#225 Post by domino harvey » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:11 pm

I suspect you also know that factoring in supplemental materials, it's not even close. I'm going to get both sets, but let's address this disparity honestly

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