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Re: TV of 2018

#26 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:51 pm

Futurama was never on a run where every episode was a home run, and each time it's returned there's been some high points to go along with the low, so as long as they keep batting at least .250, it seems worthwhile to add a few great episodes to the heap. My favorite episode of the series, "The Late Philip J. Fry," didn't come until the first batch of rebooted episodes, if I remember correctly.

Whereas with The Simpsons... well. It's been discussed to death, but. Yeah.

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#27 Post by Ribs » Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:55 pm

I have this honest belief it would be possible, suddenly, for the Simpsons to be good again! Or at least, rebooted-Futurama-level good (so, mostly alright, sometimes great). But I just feel like Al Jean and whoever really crippled the show by sticking with it for just so long. Almost every other TV show to have ever existed switches showrunners every three years! I know he's had a somewhat reduced role. But, anyway, that's besides the point: I was more thinking that, had they ended the Simpsons at Season 25 or something we'd probably already be on a track of the upcoming Simpsons reboot. I'm actually somewhat intrigued by a lot of these reboot ideas, as it does strike me as a unique thing network TV can do to combat streaming and cable.

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#28 Post by Big Ben » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:00 pm

I had a very strict parent that wouldn't let me watch The Simpsons when I was younger so it wasn't ever really much of my life. I can say with certainty that the episodes I saw as an adult have been pretty awful. One in particular involving Werner Herzog was downright apalling. People's eyes just fall out of their heads mid episode and that's like, the episode. Futurama on the other hand was something I could catch on Adult Swim late at night when I wasn't being accosted at every waking moment. Which is where I fell in love with the show. It's not perfect and I'll readily admit that but I'll never not be nostalgic for it.

As much as I dislike Disney becoming more powerful through aquisitions I am hopeful that they'll do right by The Simpsons and put out earlier seasons correctly and with the fixins'. And yes maybe even Futurama too. Given Disney's propensity to milk properties like a cow I hope that's the case.

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#29 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:02 pm

Ribs wrote:I have this honest belief it would be possible, suddenly, for the Simpsons to be good again! Or at least, rebooted-Futurama-level good (so, mostly alright, sometimes great). But I just feel like Al Jean and whoever really crippled the show by sticking with it for just so long. Almost every other TV show to have ever existed switches showrunners every three years! I know he's had a somewhat reduced role. But, anyway, that's besides the point: I was more thinking that, had they ended the Simpsons at Season 25 or something we'd probably already be on a track of the upcoming Simpsons reboot. I'm actually somewhat intrigued by a lot of these reboot ideas, as it does strike me as a unique thing network TV can do to combat streaming and cable.
The Simpsons hit the skids for a lot of reasons, but the voice talent is no longer in the same room with one another, the animation is no longer hand-drawn, the writers are no longer motivated by having the most sought-after job in comedy writing, there are a thousand tiny cuts that would make a reboot just as worthless as a 35th season, it's not as if they could suddenly sew all that back up after a few years off

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#30 Post by Mr Sausage » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:16 pm

domino harvey wrote:So long as they brought Rene Balcer back to showrun-- it's markedly noticeable how much better the flagship and Criminal Intent were when he was at the helm
Do he helm the final season of CI? Because that season was markedly better than the four or five preceding it.

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#31 Post by domino harvey » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:21 pm

He didn't, though Wikipedia says he rewrote the finale but remained uncredited. He did however co-write either the story or script for most if not the entire first five seasons, so his presence was well established early on. He also is responsible for the last seasons of Law & Order proper, which not only pulled the show out of a tailspin but gave us the best cast and scripts since the glory days at least a decade prior

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#32 Post by jazzo » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:04 pm

Not sure if it's because I was quite taken with the source novel, but two episodes into the AMC adaptation of Dan Simmon's historical horror, THE TERROR, and I'm kind-of loving it. Hopefully I'll have more to say when it's done, but so far, it carries all the menace of the novel, and we've barely touched upon the supernatural, instead hovering around the claustrophobic doom of the ice-bound Franklin expedition, itself.

Plus, y'know, Ciarán Hinds and Jared Harris always add a touch of class to their projects.

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#33 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:51 am

flyonthewall2983 wrote:Here And Now
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#34 Post by thirtyframesasecond » Wed May 02, 2018 8:29 am

jazzo wrote:Not sure if it's because I was quite taken with the source novel, but two episodes into the AMC adaptation of Dan Simmon's historical horror, THE TERROR, and I'm kind-of loving it. Hopefully I'll have more to say when it's done, but so far, it carries all the menace of the novel, and we've barely touched upon the supernatural, instead hovering around the claustrophobic doom of the ice-bound Franklin expedition, itself.

Plus, y'know, Ciarán Hinds and Jared Harris always add a touch of class to their projects.
I can't get it over in the UK as ABC isn't on Sky (BT has it) but I do want to watch this. I assume it'll be for sale on Amazon once broadcast.

I've watched a couple of episodes of the Crossing, which is on Amazon Prime in the UK. It's going for that Lost-vibe. Steve Zahn's a small town sheriff and loads of refugees are washed up on the shore. I'd tell you what their story is, but imagine the most ludicrous thing it could be, and you're probably more or less right.

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#35 Post by Lost Highway » Wed May 02, 2018 8:46 am

I watched The Terror on Amazon, here it comes with Amazon Prime. It's pretty good but not great. Production values and acting are excellent, but it's a little drawn out and its supernatural menace is
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#37 Post by mfunk9786 » Fri May 11, 2018 1:55 am

Network TV never felt like a super correct place for progressive television comedies to begin with, but especially not when everything is so spread around in 2018. The ABCs and FOXes of the world should be airing the Tim Allen and Roseanne shows, there are plenty of more relevant, relaxed places for shows that push the envelope a bit with regard to casting and plot. Especially with dramas - I would absolutely be watching that Christina Hendricks show if it were on premium cable or streaming, to name one example.

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#38 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri May 11, 2018 7:13 pm

Aren't Roseanne's ratings not doing too well though?

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#39 Post by Murdoch » Fri May 11, 2018 7:40 pm

They've steadied but still hold strong among 18 to 49 year olds.

As an aside, I've always been confused over how TV ratings work, even after reading about it multiple times (it's something I nod along to then immediately forget about after). Like Roseanne is supposedly No. 1 with 18-49 year-olds, but as a 30 year-old I couldn't tell you the last time I even watched a network comedy and I don't know anyone who has. Obviously that is highly anecdotal but is anyone really watching network comedies anymore?

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#40 Post by Werewolf by Night » Fri May 11, 2018 8:28 pm

Murdoch wrote:is anyone really watching network comedies anymore?
In short, no. The rating number itself is a willfully obscure figure that just represents fraction of the total number of television viewers at that hour viewing a given show. The actual number of live viewers or the average number of live viewers is more instructive (the latter of which in Roseanne’s case is currently 10.2 million). Nielsen estimates 304.5 million people above the age of 2 living in the U.S. in households with a television, which means that about 294.3 million of those people are choosing NOT to watch Roseanne. They are watching something else at that time or not watching TV at all. Really puts things into perspective, no? Even for its much vaunted premiere, fewer than 1 in 10 of these 304.5 million people tuned in (even when you generously include viewers who recorded it and watched it up to 7 days later).

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#41 Post by Murdoch » Sat May 12, 2018 11:03 am

That puts things into perspective, thanks for the explanation!

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