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Re: Awards Season 2019

#126 Post by Cremildo » Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:47 pm

AFI MOTION PICTURES OF THE YEAR

1917
The Farewell
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Knives Out
Little Women
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time... In Hollywood
Richard Jewell

SPECIAL AWARD
Parasite

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#127 Post by DarkImbecile » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:10 pm


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Re: Awards Season 2019

#128 Post by Cremildo » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:15 pm

European Film Awards:

FILM: The Favourite
ACTRESS: Olivia Colman, The Favourite
ACTOR: Antonio Banderas, Pain and Glory
DIRECTOR: Yorgos Lanthimos, The Favourite
SCREENPLAY: Céline Sciamma, Portrait of a Lady on Fire
ANIMATED FEATURE: Buñuel in the Labyrinth of the Turtles, Salvador Simó
SHORT FILM: The Christmas Gift, Bogdan Mureșanu
FICTION SERIES: Babylon Berlin, Achim von Borries, Henk Handloegten, and Tom Tykwer
DISCOVERY - Prix FIPRESCI: Les Misérables, Ladj Ly
ACHIEVEMENT IN WORLD CINEMA: Juliette Binoche
PEOPLE'S CHOICE AWARD: Cold War, Paweł Pawlikowski
LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD: Werner Herzog
COMEDY: The Favourite
DOCUMENTARY: For Sama, Waad al-Kateab, Edward Watts
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Re: Awards Season 2019

#129 Post by aox » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:21 pm

Does anyone have an objection to this with a substantive reason? I think I am kind of OK with it.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#130 Post by domino harvey » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:29 pm

Since the branches themselves are the ones advocating for it, probably not

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#131 Post by movielocke » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:19 pm

aox wrote:
Does anyone have an objection to this with a substantive reason? I think I am kind of OK with it.
Some post people are irritated but even a trained ear can’t tell explicate the difference between good sfx/sound editing and good sound mixing—although they’re different roles in post and bad sound mixing can ruin good sound editing and vice versa.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#132 Post by low » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:55 pm

movielocke wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:19 pm
...—although they’re different roles in post and bad sound mixing can ruin good sound editing and vice versa.
Sound mixing is generally a production role, and on a set the sound mixer is a department head, like a director of photography.

It’s hard to distinguish the various stages of mixing and editing, so it doesn’t bother me that they’re combining such an esoteric aspect of the process.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#133 Post by Nasir007 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:10 pm

Having done video production as a favor for friends and colleagues etc. - I personally can see the difference between Mixing and Editing but I agree the nomination and award process in the Academy does not really make a case for them being separate categories.

The only adverse effects I can think of are -

1. The category would not privilege movies which have BOTH good mixing and editing. And this might leave out some players - like musicals. Musicals have good sound mixing - to co-ordinate and record live singing and back-up music and mixing it all together etc. But typically might not have a lot of foley work done to create sounds. So they would lose out.
2. Sound is absolutely an art form and should reward excellence in those fields. Typically blockbusters do have very complex sound done due to multiple elements in action scenes. Going from 10 to 5 slots might perhaps edge out some worthy sound achievements in favor of yet another validation of best picture nominees. So it might detract from true recognition of good work.
3. And lastly, one less category might prevent films going for records at the Oscars. Typically tech heavy films would sweep the sound categories notching up 2 noms or 2 wins, now their tally would be reduced a bit since there is only 1 category.

But all in all this is a good decision. Another decision I would favor is elimination of the Best Song category.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#134 Post by DarkImbecile » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:07 pm

LA Film Critics Association’s 2019 Awards

Best Picture: “Parasite” (Runner-up: “The Irishman”)

Best Director: Bong Joon Ho, “Parasite” (Runner-up: Martin Scorsese, “The Irishman”)

Best Actress: Mary Kay Place, “Diane” (Runner-up: Lupita Nyong’o, “Us”)

Best Documentary: “American Factory” (Runner-up: “Apollo 11”)

Best Screenplay: Noah Baumbach, “Marriage Story” (Runner-up: Bong Joon Ho and Han Jin Won, “Parasite”)

Douglas Edwards Experimental Film Award: “The Giverny Document,” Ja’Tovia Gary

Best Supporting Actress: Jennifer Lopez, “Hustlers” (Runner-up: Zhao Shuzhen, “The Farewell”)

Best Editing: Todd Douglas Miller, “Apollo 11” (Runner-up: Ronald Bronstein & Benny Safdie, “Uncut Gems”)

Best Production Design: Barbara Ling, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood” (Runner-up: Ha Jun Lee, “Parasite”)

Best Actor: Antonio Banderas, “Pain & Glory” (Runner-up: Adam Driver, “Marriage Story”)

Best Animated Film: “I Lost My Body” (Runner-up: “Toy Story 4”)

Best Supporting Actor: Song Kang Ho, “Parasite” (Runner-up: Joe Pesci, “The Irishman”)

Best Music/Score: Dan Levy, “I Lost My Body” (Runner-up: Thomas Newman, “1917”)

Best Cinematography: Claire Mathon, “Portrait of a Lady on Fire,” “Atlantics” (Runner-up: Roger Deakins, “1917”)

Best Foreign Language Film: “Pain and Glory” (Runner-up: “Portrait of a Lady on Fire”)

Career Achievement Award: Elaine May

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#135 Post by Nasir007 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:08 am

This is an awards group I like and I agree with their top 2 awards. I am most surprised to learn that the movie that placed 3rd was Little Women!
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-a ... ers-inside

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#136 Post by felipe » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:56 am

THE 2019 WAFCA AWARD WINNERS:

Best Film:
Parasite

Best Director:
Bong Joon-ho (Parasite)

Best Actor:
Adam Driver (Marriage Story)

Best Actress:
Lupita Nyong'o (Us)

Best Supporting Actor:
Brad Pitt (Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood)

Best Supporting Actress:
Jennifer Lopez (Hustlers)

Best Acting Ensemble:
Knives Out

Best Youth Performance:
Roman Griffin Davis (Jojo Rabbit)

Best Voice Performance:
Tony Hale (Toy Story 4)

Best Motion Capture Performance:
Josh Brolin (Avengers: Endgame)

Best Original Screenplay:
Noah Baumbach (Marriage Story)

Best Adapted Screenplay:
Greta Gerwig; Based on the Novel by Louisa May Alcott (Little Women)

Best Animated Feature:
Toy Story 4

Best Documentary:
Apollo 11

Best Foreign Language Film:
Parasite

Best Production Design:
Production Designer: Barbara Ling; Set Decorator: Nancy Haigh (Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood)

Best Cinematography:
Roger Deakins, ASC, BSC (1917)

Best Editing:
Michael McCusker, ACE and Andrew Buckland (Ford v Ferrari)

Best Original Score:
Michael Abels (Us)

The Joe Barber Award for Best Portrayal of Washington, DC:
The Report

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#137 Post by Apperson » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:33 am

The Golden Globe Nominations: where they won't nominate a woman if they don't have to!

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#138 Post by Jack Kubrick » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:33 am

Golden Globe nominations.

BEST MOTION PICTURE – DRAMA
“1917”
“Irishman”
“Joker”
“Marriage Story”
“The Two Popes”

BEST MOTION PICTURE – MUSICAL OR COMEDY
“Dolemite is my Name”
“Jojo Rabbit”
“Knives Out”
“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
“Rocketman”

BEST DIRECTOR
Bong Joon Ho, “Parasite”
Sam Mendes, “1917”
Quentin Tarantino, “Once Upon A Time In Hollywood”
Martin Scorsese, “The Irishman”
Todd Phillips, “Joker”

BEST ACTOR – DRAMA
Christian Bale, “Ford v. Ferrari”
Antonio Banderas, “Pain and Glory”
Adam Driver, “Marriage Story”
Joaquin Phoenix, “Joker”
Jonathan Pryce, “The Two Popes”

BEST ACTRESS – DRAMA
Cynthio Erivo, “Harriet”
Scarlett Johansson, “Marriage Story”
Soarise Ronana, “Little Women”
Charlize Theron, “Bombshell”
Renee Zellweger, “Judy”

BEST ACTOR – MUSICAL OR COMEDY
Daniel Craig (“Knives Out”)
Roman Griffin Davis (“Jojo Rabbit”)
Leonardo DiCaprio (“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”)
Taron Egerton (“Rocketman”)
Eddie Murphy (“Dolemite Is My Name”)

BEST ACTRESS – MUSICAL OR COMEDY
Awkwafina, “The Farewell”
Ana de Armas, “Knives Out”
Beanie Feldstein, “Booksmart”
Emma Thompson, “Late Night”
Cate Blanchett, “Where’d You Go Bernadette”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Tom Hanks, “A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood”
Al Pacino, “The Irishman”
Joe Pesci, “The Irishman”
Brad Pitt, “Once Upon A Time In Hollywood”
Anthony Hopkins, “The Two Popes”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Annette Benning, “The Report”
Margot Robbie, “Bombshell”
Jennifer Lopez, “Hustlers”
Kathy Bates, “Richard Jewell”
Laura Dern, “Marriage Stor”

BEST SCREENPLAY
“Marriage Story”
“Parasite”
“The Two Popes”
“Once Upon A Time In Hollywood”
“The Irishman”

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
“Motherless Brooklyn”
“Little Women”
“Joker”
“1917”
“Marriage Story”

BEST ORIGINAL SONG
“Beautiful Ghosts” – CATS
“I’m Gonna Love Me Again” – Rocketman
“Into the Unknown” – Frozen 2
“Spirit” – The Lion King
“Stand Up” – Harriet

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE
“Frozen 2”
“The Lion King”
“Missing Link”
“Toy Story 4”
“How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World”

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
“The Farewell”
“Les Misérables”
“Pain and Glory”
“Parasite”
“Portrait of a Lady on Fire”
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Re: Awards Season 2019

#139 Post by Randall Maysin » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:44 am

Is Kent Jones in some way, past or present, affiliated with the Los Angeles Film Critics Association? And I'm not knocking Mary Kay Place, but it does seem...uncharacteristic of a big, and I'm assuming fairly mainstream association like that to single out this film.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#140 Post by mfunk9786 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:26 am

Have you seen it? Have you seen the performance? In a year without a strong frontrunner, why not recognize someone from a smaller film?

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#141 Post by Nasir007 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:10 am

Randall Maysin wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:44 am
Is Kent Jones in some way, past or present, affiliated with the Los Angeles Film Critics Association? And I'm not knocking Mary Kay Place, but it does seem...uncharacteristic of a big, and I'm assuming fairly mainstream association like that to single out this film.
Good question! The answer is - he's one of their own. The community of - let's say - consequential film critics is definitely a small-ish echo chamber kinda group and festival programmers are definitely part of it, especially American ones. And many of these critics have been in the business for literally decades. That would definitely entail personal, literally personal, as in face-to-face interaction, favors exchanged for festival passes, appearances on panels, articles contributed to film comment, etc. etc.

Let's just say if Kent Jones made a film - the one group to take it seriously would definitely be film critics. It might not even be on the radar of everyone else but for them, they will be aware of it because they are likely on first name terms with him and Jones apparently has created enough of a goodwill that his colleagues are not jealous and want to shiv him in the back but actually want to take his bid for film-making seriously.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#142 Post by hearthesilence » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:06 pm

I've seen many, many raves for Place's performance in reviews outside of NYC, so it's not the kind of surprise that would warrant suspicion to me. (Even Greil Marcus praised her and the film in one of his columns.) I don't think the L.A. critics would be swayed by Kent Jones's own history as a critic either, en masse they're not so close to the East Coast branch as to be that biased in his favor. He's far from the first critic to jump into filmmaking. I suppose being one does help to get his film watched - but I don't see how that should be held against him, especially since every filmmaker on the planet uses any resource they have to get their films watched by the press. It doesn't guarantee praise or box office.

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#143 Post by Never Cursed » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:13 pm

It's not even like Jones used every resource he had to promote the film - he quite deliberately kept it out of NYFF this year, which also marks his retirement from directing the festival.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#144 Post by hearthesilence » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:17 pm

Never Cursed wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:13 pm
It's not even like Jones used every resource he had to promote the film - he quite deliberately kept it out of NYFF this year, which also marks his retirement from directing the festival.
To be fair, it did screen at Tribeca earlier this year, but you're right, there's no way Jones would have shoehorned his own film into the NYFF. I doubt it ever crossed his mind, knowing how it would be a conflict-of-interest regardless of his film's merits.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#145 Post by Nasir007 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:18 pm

hearthesilence wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:06 pm
I've seen many, many raves for Place's performance in reviews outside of NYC, so it's not the kind of surprise that would warrant suspicion to me. (Even Greil Marcus praised her and the film in one of his columns.) I don't think the L.A. critics would be swayed by Kent Jones's own history as a critic either, en masse they're not so close to the East Coast branch as to be that biased in his favor. He's far from the first critic to jump into filmmaking. I suppose being one does help to get his film watched - but I don't see how that should be held against him, especially since every filmmaker on the planet uses any resource they have to get their films watched by the press. It doesn't guarantee praise or box office.
Nobody's holding anything against him. Just saying that it being a Kent Jones film helped. Of course, it did. Nothing wrong about that. There is nothing improper here.

The only assist the film got with film critics is a desire to see it and consider it. Of course, the film lives and dies by its merits. No one is obligated to acclaim it or reward it. But it got just the assist of being seen.

And when it comes to awards - that's the biggest hurdle of all right? Being seen. If only some films were more widely seen, they would have different prospects. It is true because it applies even to us. We all watch a limited number of films. If only we saw certain films, they would make our Top 10 too.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#146 Post by mfunk9786 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:27 pm

What makes you such an authority on any of this, Nasir? I frankly don't like this brand of snobby pseudo-insidery sniping, especially coming from someone who has proven himself to be at best, charmingly uninformed several times since you began posting on this forum. Before you begin stomping around making accusations you can't support about the merits of someone's recognition for their good work, you might want to look in the mirror. We don't need another Thomas Clay posting here, let alone in this thread.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#147 Post by domino harvey » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:15 pm

The De Niro snub is surprising. Parasite wasn’t eligible for Best Drama, so it wasn’t snubbed

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#148 Post by DarkImbecile » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:27 pm

Critic's Choice Awards nominations:

Best Picture
1917
Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite
Uncut Gems


Best Actor
Antonio Banderas, Pain and Glory
Robert De Niro, The Irishman
Leonardo DiCaprio, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Adam Driver, Marriage Story
Eddie Murphy, Dolemite Is My Name
Joaquin Phoenix, Joker
Adam Sandler, Uncut Gems

Best Actress
Awkwafina, The Farewell
Cynthia Erivo, Harriet
Scarlett Johansson, Marriage Story
Lupita Nyong’o, Us
Saoirse Ronan, Little Women
Charlize Theron, Bombshell
Renée Zellweger, Judy

Best Supporting Actor
Willem Dafoe, The Lighthouse
Tom Hanks, A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Anthony Hopkins, The Two Popes
Al Pacino, The Irishman
Joe Pesci, The Irishman
Brad Pitt, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Best Supporting Actress
Laura Dern, Marriage Story
Scarlett Johansson, Jojo Rabbit
Jennifer Lopez, Hustlers
Florence Pugh, Little Women
Margot Robbie, Bombshell
Zhao Shuzhen, The Farewell

Best Young Actor/Actress
Julia Butters, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Roman Griffin Davis, Jojo Rabbit
Noah Jupe, Honey Boy
Thomasin McKenzie, Jojo Rabbit
Shahadi Wright Joseph, Us
Archie Yates, Jojo Rabbit

Best Acting Ensemble
Bombshell
The Irishman
Knives Out
Little Women
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite


Best Director
Noah Baumbach, Marriage Story
Greta Gerwig, Little Women
Bong Joon Ho, Parasite
Sam Mendes, 1917
Josh Safdie & Benny Safdie, Uncut Gems
Martin Scorsese, The Irishman
Quentin Tarantino, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Best Original Screenplay
Noah Baumbach, Marriage Story
Rian Johnson, Knives Out
Bong Joon Ho & Han Jin Won, Parasite
Quentin Tarantino, Once Upon a Time… in Hollywood
Lulu Wang, The Farewell

Best Adapted Screenplay
Greta Gerwig, Little Women
Noah Harpster & Micah Fitzerman-Blue, A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Anthony McCarten, The Two Popes
Todd Phillips & Scott Silver, Joker
Taika Waititi, Jojo Rabbit
Steven Zaillian, The Irishman

Best Cinematography
Jarin Blaschke, The Lighthouse
Roger Deakins, 1917
Phedon Papamichael, Ford v Ferrari
Rodrigo Prieto, The Irishman
Robert Richardson, Once Upon a Time… in Hollywood
Lawrence Sher, Joker

Best Production Design
Mark Friedberg & Kris Moran, Joker
Dennis Gassner & Lee Sandales, 1917
Jess Gonchor & Claire Kaufman, Little Women
Lee Ha Jun, Parasite
Bob Shaw & Regina Graves, The Irishman
Donal Woods & Gina Cromwell, Downton Abbey
Barbara Ling & Nancy Haigh, Once Upon a Time… in Hollywood

Best Editing
Ronald Bronstein & Benny Safdie, Uncut Gems
Andrew Buckland & Michael McCusker, Ford v Ferrari
Yang Jinmo, Parasite
Fred Raskin, Once Upon a Time… in Hollywood
Thelma Schoonmaker, The Irishman
Lee Smith, 1917

Best Costume Design
Ruth E. Carter, Dolemite Is My Name
Julian Day, Rocketman
Jacqueline Durran, Little Women
Arianne Phillips, Once Upon a Time… in Hollywood
Sandy Powell & Christopher Peterson, The Irishman
Anna Robbins, Downton Abbey

Best Hair & Make-Up
Bombshell
Dolemite Is My Name
The Irishman
Joker
Judy
Once Upon a Time… in Hollywood
Rocketman


Best Visual Effects
1917
Ad Astra
The Aeronauts
Avengers: Endgame
Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
The Lion King


Best Animated Feature
Abominable
Frozen II
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
I Lost My Body
Missing Link
Toy Story 4


Best Action Movie
1917
Avengers: Endgame
Ford v Ferrari
John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
Spider-Man: Far From Home


Best Comedy
Booksmart
Dolemite Is My Name
The Farewell
Jojo Rabbit
Knives Out


Best Sci-Fi or Horror Movie
Ad Astra
Avengers: Endgame
Midsommar
Us


Best Foreign Language Film
Atlantics
Les Misérables
Pain and Glory
Parasite
Portrait of a Lady on Fire


Best Song
“Glasgow (No Place Like Home),” Wild Rose
“(I’m Gonna) Love Me Again,” Rocketman
“I’m Standing With You,” Breakthrough
“Into the Unknown,” Frozen II
“Speechless,” Aladdin
“Spirit,” The Lion King
“Stand Up,” Harriet

Best Score
Michael Abels, Us
Alexandre Desplat, Little Women
Hildur Guðnadóttir, Joker
Randy Newman, Marriage Story
Thomas Newman, 1917
Robbie Robertson, The Irishman

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#149 Post by domino harvey » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:25 pm

Swo, help me out with the math here
“They are out of step,” Dr. Stacy L. Smith, the director of the USC Annenberg Inclusion Initiative, said plainly of the HFPA.

Smith does extensive research around the employment and advancement of women in Hollywood. One statistic from her research, that only 4% of the top 100 films produced in recent years come from women, will see a notable increase in 2019 — in the 12% to 15% range, Smith told Variety. Sadly, she noted, the Globe nominations do not reflect this.
Not that this is a great argument anyways, but: If films directed by women account for 15% at most, why would they be held as meeting even the arbitrary threshold of 1 representative slot out of 5 (20%)?

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#150 Post by swo17 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:33 pm

All else being equal, if women make 15% of all films, then random lists of 5 directors will include zero women about 44% of the time, one woman 39% of the time, two women 14% of the time, three women 2% of the time, and four or five women less than 1% of the time.

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