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#6726 Post by Perkins Cobb » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:43 am

Jan Triska. Fell or jumped off a bridge in Prague.

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#6727 Post by colinr0380 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:40 pm

That's awful. His two biggest roles were probably the buttoned up teacher in the Academy Award nominated Elementary School (diected by Jan Sverák who later won the Foreign Language Film Oscar with Kolya) and the Marquis in Jan Svankmajer's Lunacy.

But he seemed the go to person to play very small Eastern European-y roles in American films during the early to mid 80s! He's the very briefly seen Russian spymaster in Peckinpah's The Osterman Weekend, playing a Swedish architect(!) in Nothing Lasts Forever, Polish in the Dudley Moore remake of Unfaithfully Yours, Russian again in 2010 and so on. It goes right up to things like Apt Pupil, Lost Souls and Ronin in the late 90s too. It seems from the imdb page that he had a very prolific film and TV career before leaving for the US.

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#6728 Post by Perkins Cobb » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:35 pm

Along with Ronin, Triska was the villain in Andersonville -- like Michael Gambon, an unlikely late-career favorite of Frankenheimer's.

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#6729 Post by Aunt Peg » Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:41 am

Gisèle Casadesus has passed away at age 103.

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#6730 Post by Ashirg » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:12 pm


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#6731 Post by Dr Amicus » Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:08 am

Tony Booth. Best known for being Tony Blair's father-in-law and his TV roles (again, most famously Alf Garnett's son-in-law in Till Death Us Do Part), but also a regular in the Confessions... series of films.

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#6733 Post by dx23 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:25 pm



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#6735 Post by beamish13 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:57 am

Hefner was an incredible man. A rebel and a maverick, he promoted progressive causes during the very conservative 1950's, and pushed for integration/leadership roles for women before many others. Beyond financing films like Polanski's Macbeth and Bogdanovich's Saint Jack, he was a major contributor to film preservation projects at the UCLA Film & Television Archive and USC. People often forget that Playboy was an early champion of authors like Ray Bradbury, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, and Haruki Murakami.

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#6736 Post by med » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:14 pm

He was also, by several accounts, a giant creep who was basically running indentured sexual servitude with his multiple "girlfriends". None of this was secret, so the hagiography coming from some circles is more than a little weird.

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#6737 Post by beamish13 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:42 pm

med wrote:He was also, by several accounts, a giant creep who was basically running indentured sexual servitude with his multiple "girlfriends". None of this was secret, so the hagiography coming from some circles is more than a little weird.
I don't care about his personal life. Only the massive sea change in American popular culture that he helped to shepherd, coupled with his lifelong commitment to liberal platforms, has any interest to me.

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#6738 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:33 pm

It can also be argued that sea change also did as much damage to women, as it did to liberate them too.


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#6740 Post by med » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:47 pm

beamish13 wrote:
med wrote:He was also, by several accounts, a giant creep who was basically running indentured sexual servitude with his multiple "girlfriends". None of this was secret, so the hagiography coming from some circles is more than a little weird.
I don't care about his personal life. Only the massive sea change in American popular culture that he helped to shepherd, coupled with his lifelong commitment to liberal platforms, has any interest to me.
Cool. In his professional life, he helped foster an unrealistic standard of female beauty and preyed on the women who posed in his magazine.

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#6741 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:53 am

And I don't get the impression he really ever went the extra mile with his liberal beliefs. From what I can gather, he was just friendly to African-Americans because he loved jazz and had a hard-on for black women.

If the sex-positive people I follow on social media are any indication, he has a complex legacy. Some see him as the icon he is in pop culture, but others exploitative and predatory. I've got to say the fact that his plot will be next to Marilyn Monroe's, considering her photos were used without her agreement in the first issue, is creepy as hell.

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#6742 Post by Feego » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:32 pm

Game show host Monty Hall at 96. I had no idea he was the father of actress Joanna Gleason.

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#6743 Post by fdm » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:44 am

Interestingly, my mom's cousin was one of the models on Let's Make A Deal back in the 60s (Barbara Lyon). And my cousin was a Playboy centerfold in the 90s. What a week for them. I don't really know whether Barbara is still around, but Danelle is.

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#6744 Post by gcgiles1dollarbin » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:17 pm

Tom Petty

What a shitty, shitty day for multiple reasons.

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#6745 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:59 pm

His greatest feat to me is that he managed to be super relevant in the 70's, 80's and 90's in ways very, very few before and after managed to.

If you're a fan of the music I highly recommend reading both his biography by Warren Zanes, and the book Conversations With Tom Petty, co-written with Paul Zollo.

By some eerie coincidence I came across this video recently, and was wondering where I can share it here.

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#6746 Post by dx23 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:02 pm

gcgiles1dollarbin wrote:Tom Petty

What a shitty, shitty day for multiple reasons.
Seriously, what a shitty month. When I saw that he had a cardiac arrest my heart sank even more cause I knew he wasn't going to be with us much longer. Rest In Peace.


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#6747 Post by lacritfan » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:15 pm

Peter Bogdanovich's Runnin' Down a Dream is one of the best rock documentaries ever. It's four hours long so I'm warning you to put that much time aside because even if you're just a minor Tom Petty fan once you start watching you will not want to pause.

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#6748 Post by lacritfan » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:20 pm

flyonthewall2983 wrote:By some eerie coincidence I came across this video recently, and was wondering where I can share it here.
I remember Petty was on It's Garry Shandling's Show. There were maybe half a dozen people at Gary's house when a pregnant woman goes into labor. The baby is born and the camera became the POV of the baby and goes from person to person. Goo goo eyes, oh how cute, coochie coo and then it gets to Petty and he just has a look of ewww gross.

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#6749 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:25 pm

I liked hearing Petty talk about the early days and how promoters would promote his band as a punk band even though they weren't. That was their uniqueness in their early days. Didn't quite fit into any genre.

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#6750 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:28 pm

lacritfan wrote:
flyonthewall2983 wrote:By some eerie coincidence I came across this video recently, and was wondering where I can share it here.
I remember Petty was on It's Garry Shandling's Show. There were maybe half a dozen people at Gary's house when a pregnant woman goes into labor. The baby is born and the camera became the POV of the baby and goes from person to person. Goo goo eyes, oh how cute, coochie coo and then it gets to Petty and he just has a look of ewww gross.
He was later on Larry Sanders, where he almost gets into a fight backstage with Clint Black.

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