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Re: Untitled Blade Runner Sequel (Denis Villeneuve, 2017)
2049 is just one year away.
Ridley Scott. Denis Villeneuve. Harrison Ford. Ryan Gosling. #BladeRunner 2049 - in theaters October 6, 2017.
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Both Harrison Ford and Ridley Scott look absolutely great in that photo for their age(s). Gosling should take some tips on exfoliation in moderation from these codgers.
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So that's who's keeping the watch industry in business
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Is it OK to get excited now? After Sicario and Arrival, Denis Villeneuve might be one my favorite currently working directors
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I love Blade Runner, and Ryan Gosling is a fine actor deserving of more chances as a lead actor, but I remain highly skeptical.
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I suppose that if Villeneuve is one of your favorite currently working directors, it's only logical for you to be excited. However, as I have yet to find one of his movies better than "meh" (while I hated Incendies), I'm more on the worried side of things.dda1996a wrote:Is it OK to get excited now? After Sicario and Arrival, Denis Villeneuve might be one my favorite currently working directors
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I really liked Incendies as well so yeah. To be honest I've yet to be disappointed with a film of his. Did you not like Sicario?
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Fantastic. He's got the atmosphere down but it's distinctively his take and that's what counts. I have very high hopes for this despite BR being among my favorite films and among the most formative ones for me. But this has so much going for it. Seeing this footage is equivalent to what I expect from the first glimpses of the new Twin Peaks. A wondrous though utterly unexpected return.
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I think that teaser looks great, I think Ryan Gosling is a fantastic actor, I'm enjoying Harrison Ford's late career renaissance of sorts, and I love almost every Denis Villeneuve film (I'm a bit cold on Maelstrom, but I think Polytechnique is one of the ten best Canadian films ever made). That said, I can't think of an example where I beloved classic got sequalized 35 years later and the sequel was great. So I'll put my self in "we'll wait and see, but we'll definitely see" category.dda1996a wrote:Is it OK to get excited now? After Sicario and Arrival, Denis Villeneuve might be one my favorite currently working directors
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Re: Blade Runner 2049 (Denis Villeneuve, 2017)
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Does Ford being alive go against the logic of the original? Or is he not the same model as Roy Batty and therefore can live a normal length of time?
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The Color of Money 25 years later, Germany Year 90 Nine Zero 26 years later, both short of 35 years.That said, I can't think of an example where I beloved classic got sequalized 35 years later and the sequel was great.
Haven't seen The Thousand Eyes of Dr. Mabuse 38 years later. Any other contenders?
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Wiki has a list. Of those Belle Tujours, Return to Oz, and Embodiment of Evil are all good.
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At the very least, it reverses a good bit of poignancy found in the original.Drucker wrote:SpoilerShowDoes Ford being alive go against the logic of the original? Or is he not the same model as Roy Batty and therefore can live a normal length of time?
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So did the very existence of Before Midnight.
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I am also terribly excited about this.
I've really come to admire Villeneuve over the years. Even when I find huge missteps in what I think, for the most part, are good films (like PRISONERS and INCENDIES), it never destroys them completely. I can't simply dismiss them, and I never feel like I'm not in the hands of someone who knows exactly what he's doing.
And Villeneuve has a distinct voice, if not as a writer, certainly as a director, and only seems to take on projects on that he can fully invest himself emotionally in.
There are sequences in SICARIO (particularly, the border crossing) that rival NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN in terms of crafting sheer suspense with camera placement, editing and sound in a film. In ARRIVAL, Villeneuve found a surprisingly accessible route into the humanity of his characters, which have, historically (and I'm probably not going to articulate this very well) been treated more as thematic ciphers than they they have as real people. Which is fine. There's just something slightly more real in ARRIVAL's characters.
And like Hitchcock, he seems to be pushing himself to evolve with each film, even when he doesn't write them. The scripts may not originate with him, but he develops them with the writers into his own thing.
Also, I fucking love ENEMY; a beautiful bewitching, sometimes confounding brew of a film.
I've really come to admire Villeneuve over the years. Even when I find huge missteps in what I think, for the most part, are good films (like PRISONERS and INCENDIES), it never destroys them completely. I can't simply dismiss them, and I never feel like I'm not in the hands of someone who knows exactly what he's doing.
And Villeneuve has a distinct voice, if not as a writer, certainly as a director, and only seems to take on projects on that he can fully invest himself emotionally in.
There are sequences in SICARIO (particularly, the border crossing) that rival NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN in terms of crafting sheer suspense with camera placement, editing and sound in a film. In ARRIVAL, Villeneuve found a surprisingly accessible route into the humanity of his characters, which have, historically (and I'm probably not going to articulate this very well) been treated more as thematic ciphers than they they have as real people. Which is fine. There's just something slightly more real in ARRIVAL's characters.
And like Hitchcock, he seems to be pushing himself to evolve with each film, even when he doesn't write them. The scripts may not originate with him, but he develops them with the writers into his own thing.
Also, I fucking love ENEMY; a beautiful bewitching, sometimes confounding brew of a film.
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Re: Blade Runner 2049 (Denis Villeneuve, 2017)
Drucker wrote:SpoilerShowDoes Ford being alive go against the logic of the original? Or is he not the same model as Roy Batty and therefore can live a normal length of time?
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I don't see why it has to be perceived as going against the logic of the original seeing as in the "original", and by this I mean the theatrical cut, Deckard was only implied, if that, to be a replicant with a replicant length lifespan. Villeneuve has stated he's preserving the mystery and, in some ways, prefers the original theatrical cuts ambiguity on this matter (as do I). There are multiple ways they could address this or work around it. I would bet that this whole aspect (developed by Scott primarily after the fact) could have been the initial inspiration for the new film.
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I found it meh and too long.dda1996a wrote:I really liked Incendies as well so yeah. To be honest I've yet to be disappointed with a film of his. Did you not like Sicario?
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More really cool stuff here (I'm surprised we're getting so much so soon). Very pleased to see Ana de Armas in that shot in the car with Gosling, suggesting she's prominent in the cast.
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I am cautiously optimistic about this film. One of the aspects that made the original so engrossing were the tangible special FX. The model work and flying cars on wires made that futuristic world entirely believable, a quality that remains true today. Inevitably, there will be CGI in the new film. I realize the arguments against CGI are tired at this point, but at the same time, the presence of CGI will probably create a major separation between the new film and the original, both in terms of their formal approaches and their effect on the viewer.
I listened to a Variety postcast interview with Villeneuve a few months back. He talked about how much he doesn't like using CGI. Of course, he was talking about Arrival. He mentioned how he originally wanted to make the aliens with puppetry, which would have been so much better looking. Alas, they were CGI creations, as was the smoky atmosphere of their container, because the alternative was too expensive. Those alien scenes were the only moments in the film that lost me.
In the interview, Villeneuve also said he and Roger Deakins went to great lengths to avoid using CGI in Blade Runner 2049. But the first trailer appears to feature CGI steam in the first shot, pluming from under the train. (I cannot be sure, but it certainly looks like CGI.) It was immediately distracting. I really hope those elements are kept to a minimum.
I think Arrival was his best film so far, as his colder sensibilities seem appropriate for science-fiction. Along with his version of Dune, here's hoping he found his genre.
I listened to a Variety postcast interview with Villeneuve a few months back. He talked about how much he doesn't like using CGI. Of course, he was talking about Arrival. He mentioned how he originally wanted to make the aliens with puppetry, which would have been so much better looking. Alas, they were CGI creations, as was the smoky atmosphere of their container, because the alternative was too expensive. Those alien scenes were the only moments in the film that lost me.
In the interview, Villeneuve also said he and Roger Deakins went to great lengths to avoid using CGI in Blade Runner 2049. But the first trailer appears to feature CGI steam in the first shot, pluming from under the train. (I cannot be sure, but it certainly looks like CGI.) It was immediately distracting. I really hope those elements are kept to a minimum.
I think Arrival was his best film so far, as his colder sensibilities seem appropriate for science-fiction. Along with his version of Dune, here's hoping he found his genre.
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Having a hard time making out the details in those, can you make 'em a little bigger?
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YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! AH, DAMN YOU! GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!