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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:54 pm 
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Whoa. Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck will be directing the Captain Marvel movie.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:53 pm 
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Hellboy reboot directed by Neil Marshall is in the works


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:46 pm 
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Tom Hardy will be playing Venom with Ruben Fleischer directing


Interesting choices. It at least has me curious.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:07 pm 
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Zack Snyder has stepped away from post-production of Justice League in the wake of his daughter's suicide, and Joss Whedon will take over for him.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:24 pm 
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Good on WB and Whedon for providing a pathway for the Snyder's to deal with a family tragedy that best serves their needs.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:10 am 
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Black Panther Trailer


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:05 am 
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It's exciting to see the MCU expanding their ideas of what a 'superhero' movie actually means, since this (like Guardians) seems like an almost entirely different beast, generically- especially since this trailer doesn't feature any cameos from any of the other heroes. It's also exciting to think of a movie that could be an international blockbuster in which 80% of the cast are black people, since there's been an ongoing assumption that 'black' movies won't play in a lot of markets.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:21 am 
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It's exciting to see the MCU expanding their ideas of what a 'superhero' movie actually means, since this (like Guardians) seems like an almost entirely different beast, generically- especially since this trailer doesn't feature any cameos from any of the other heroes.

Dr. Strange was that way, too, and is probably my favourite of the Marvel films. More character driven, and eschewed endless battles in favour more clever and imaginative resolutions.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:23 pm 
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I took the kids to see the new Spider-Man and it's enjoyable enough but doesn't really follow through with the potential it sets up. Right off I'll admit when I was kid I had very little interest in superheroes (despite my dad's large comic book collection) but I was really into Spider-Man, so I guess deep down, despite the terrible Garfield ones and the blech ad campaign for this, I was looking forward to it and hoping it might get the character right; I think Raimi's second one is the only one that really worked, at least for me.

This film is not up to Raimi's second film, but infinitely better than his third one and those last couple. Holland's fine in the role, likeable enough, but he has this "gee-whiz, golly!" tone that can get a bit tiring. Still, I do like that they play up the fact he is, really, just a kid, which gets kind of lost in the other films. And this is also aided by the fact the film (rather surprisingly) plays up the high school angle to the story, far more than the other films, to the point where the high school story is actually more important than the story around the murderous flying psychopath creating weapons of mass destruction. I read comparisons to John Hughes (as though this could be a superhero film directed by Hughes) which is true to a degree, and I do like this part to the film, but the reality is the plotlines and relationships between the characters aren't anywhere near as interesting or engaging as what Hughes could have done. There are some cute and funny moments that ring true but they're ultimately not too involving. It's telling that the character-driven second Raimi film (which doesn't have a lot of action in comparison to this) can keep my son completely engaged, even during those more talky moments, yet he was getting impatient with this one, which does have a lot of scenes in school.

There are other problems as well. The action scenes are fine, but the final bit is borderline incomprehensible and doesn't flow all that well. The insertion of Downey's Tony Stark/Iron Man feels tacked on and I wouldn't be surprised to learn he got paid millions of dollars for one afternoon's work. Same with Jon Favreau's character, though I'm sure Favreau didn't get paid millions. And I was thrilled to see Bokeem Woodbine was cast as another prominent Spider-Man villain (I won't spoil who) but was severely let down when he actually didn't get a lot to do, so I'm hoping he might show up in other films. I also have to say I'm really sick of the references these Marvel films throw out to fans Stuff like this just stops the story. Still, this film probably has the funniest, most tongue-in-cheek post-credit easter egg of the Marvel films.
[Reveal] Spoiler:
Chris Evans shows up as Captain America in a sort of PSA video explaining the virtues of "patience," especially when what you were waiting for doesn't pay off, alluding of course to waiting through the credits for the post-credit easter egg. Evans also has another half-decent cameo earlier in the film, and he's put to much better use than Downey despite Downey being more integral to the plot and being in the film longer.


Despite some good moments the film would still be a fairly generic superhero film, but it does get elevated by Michael Keaton. Other than a handful of villains the Marvel villains in these movies have been incredibly mediocre. Keaton takes what is, for me, one of the least interesting and lamest Spider-Man villains, the Vulture, and turns him into a completely menacing, actually frightening adversary. The film also goes an interesting route with his character, turning him into an average blue collar Joe, sick of being stepped on by the 1-percenters (Tony Stark in this case). All that's missing is the character either wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat or placing a Bernie bumper sticker on his car. And Keaton has this aspect of the character down and he and the film really drive this point and motivation, and you understand his frustrations. It makes the film a bit timely though ultimately there is no political or social message here, or at least a fairly general one (they're of course aiming for as wide an audience as possible). What's a bit sad, though, is that this schmoe from Jersey is far more threatening than that intergalactic mass murderer that was in the first Guardians of the Galaxy, who barely even registers as a villain.

What's disappointing, though, is after building up this villain who is genuinely evil the movie sort of chickens out at the end thanks to another plot element that gets introduced. I won't spoil it here but this element could have made things more tricky and added a really interesting angle to the film if it followed through with the Vulture, but it appears everyone was too scared to go all the way, and I guess now that Spider-Man is officially part of the Marvel universe there probably isn't any room for anything risky anymore (as terrible as the Garfield films were I had to admire the risk of ending the last one the way they did). Basically this psychopath, who has been pretty merciless throughout the film, is shown to be not that bad a guy after all.

But the film does at least take this other plot element and have some fun with it:
[Reveal] Spoiler:
It turns out that Keaton's character is the father of Peter Parker's love interest, which I guess I should have predicted because that is the ultimate in lazy screenwriting, but for whatever reason it never registered. Still, the film does have some fun with this when Peter shows up to take her to the prom, only to discover her father is the Vulture (though Vulture doesn't yet know Parker is Spider-Man). This of course leads to Parker being nervous and cautious, with Vulture just reading this as maybe Parker having dishonorable intentions towards his daughter, putting him in protective father mode, which is just as menacing as the Vulture. It's a neat scene: it's funny but also rather unnerving and surprisingly tense. Unfortunately this is about as far as the film is willing to go with this plotline.


The film, even with its faults, was still fun. I think the biggest problem is the film was really more concerned about fitting itself into the Disney Marvel universe and was afraid to really be its own entity.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:14 pm 
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Ben bids bye-bye to Batman


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:38 pm 
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...the upcoming films will figure out a way to gracefully exit the character from the storyline...

This certainly won't be the case, will it? Won't they just recast Batman?


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:48 pm 
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I can *kind of* imagine them doing a hand-off, if only because it's actually one thing they could get ahead of Marvel on (as they'll inevitably be switching to new Iron Men and Captains America within just another few movies). They're probably too afraid to do a Batman story without it being Bruce Wayne, though, even though truth be told like Spider-Man they'd probably benefit a great deal by just saying no to the origin story and refusing to engage with it at all rather than incorporating it into every single movie (in this case by using a different character).


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:57 pm 
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Roger Ryan wrote:
flyonthewall2983 wrote:

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...the upcoming films will figure out a way to gracefully exit the character from the storyline...

This certainly won't be the case, will it? Won't they just recast Batman?

I imagine he will be re-cast. Batman is arguably the biggest character in comic books today and it doesn't make any sense to not have him in future films. It also didn't make sense to cast a 40 year as Batman for a long-term franchise series, but that's a topic for another time.

Except for Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman and Henry Cavill as Superman, I wish WB/DC rebooted everything else in their film universe and actually make a plan like Marvel did. Their ineptitude is astounding when it comes to these films. For example, it was announced today, that after so much online promotion, The Rock won't be part of the Shazam! movie. Why have two years of teasing and interviews and promotion and not deliver? It's pretty clear that the only things truly working for WB regarding DC are Wonder Woman and the Arrowverse TV universe. The reason for this is because they have been pretty loyal to the source material. Well, WB should start from that idea and get the ball rolling.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:05 pm 
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Frankly I think the wisest thing to do is simply recast the role and pretend nothing happened. They don't need anymore additional tom foolery plot wise.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:53 pm 
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Here's the DC Films line-up announce at SDCC.

Shazam!
Wonder Woman 2
Suicide Squad 2
The Flash
Flashpoint
Green Lantern Corps
The Batman

Most interesting here is Flashpoint. Essentially it's a story about how the Flash goes back in time, does something and returns to the present. Except by doing something in the past he has altered the future. This is a great way for both Warners and DC to retcon any problem story elements and yes, even cast a new Batman. Can't say I'm shocked.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:04 pm 
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No need to cast a new Batman. Word out of SDCC is he's sticking around to work with Matt Reeves.
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I am the luckiest guy in the world. Batman is the coolest fucking part in any universe. It’s fucking amazing and I still can’t believe it after two films… And Matt Reeves doing it, I would be an ape on the ground for Matt Reeves. And I think you’ll see why I’m so excited to be Batman.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:17 pm 
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FigrinDan wrote:
No need to cast a new Batman. Word out of SDCC is he's sticking around to work with Matt Reeves.
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I am the luckiest guy in the world. Batman is the coolest fucking part in any universe. It’s fucking amazing and I still can’t believe it after two films… And Matt Reeves doing it, I would be an ape on the ground for Matt Reeves. And I think you’ll see why I’m so excited to be Batman.


But also of note that the Flash movie is title Flashpoint, so it will probably be based on the comic book mini-series that rebooted the whole DC, Vertigo and Wildstorm universes into the New 52. It could be the perfect scenario to recast/reboot any franchise and remove/add any actor they would like. Wouldn't be surprised if Affleck is out after that.

Edit: Big Ben beat me to the explanation.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:27 pm 
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Marvel's SDCC was less splashy (Feige maintains they're keeping mum about the post-Avengers future for another year) but had some interesting nuggets; the big one is probably that Captain Marvel will be set in the 90s complete with a young Nick Fury, which should make it a welcome change of pace.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:04 am 
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Marvel also announced that Michelle Pfeiffer will play Janet Van Dyne (The Wasp, founding member of the Avengers in the comic books and wife of Hank Pym) and Lawrence Fishburne will play Bill Foster, the second Giant Man, better known as Black Goliath. If I'm not mistaken, Fishburne will be the first actor to have roles in both the DC and Marvel Cinematic Universes. He's been very critical on the shit job that WB has done with the DC films, so I wouldn't be surprised if his DC character, Perry White, is re-cast in the future.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:49 pm 
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Re-shoots on Justice League have gone on so long and talent scheduling is such a headache that effects artists will be forced to digitally remove a mustache Henry Cavill grew for his role in the upcoming Mission: Impossible sequel.

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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:33 pm 
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Todd Phillips on to direct and Martin Scorsese to produce Joker origin movie for WB/DC.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:33 pm 
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Well, that's one more film I never want to see


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 Post subject: Re: Comic Books on Film
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:39 pm 
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Jared Leto is out so that's at least got something going for it.


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